(#6ozbn3a) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org That is brilliant! š¤£
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(#6ozbn3a) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org That is brilliant! š¤£
(#6e546wa) FTR, I see one (two) issues with PyQt6, sadly:
(#6e546wa) @prologic@twtxt.net Hm, same startup delay. (Go is not an option for me anyway.)
Itās hard to tell why all this is so slow. Maybe in this particular case it has something to do with fonts: strace shows the program loading the fontconfig configs several times, and that takes up a bulk of the startup time. š¤ (Qt6 or Java donāt do that, but theyāre still slow to start up ā for other reasons, apparently.)
To be fair, itās ājustā the initial program startup (with warm I/O caches). Once itās running, itās fine. All toolkits Iāve tried are. But I donāt want to accept such delays, not in the year 2025. š Imagine every terminal window needing half a second to appear on the screen ⦠nah, man.
(#6e546wa) Be it Java with Swing or PyQt6, it takes ~300 ms until a basic window with a treeview and a listbox appears. That is a very noticeable delay.
Is it unrealistic to expect faster startup times these days? š¤
Once the program is running, a new second window (in the same process) appears very quickly. So itās all just the initialization stuff that takes so long. I could, of course, do what āfatā programs have done for ages: Pre-launch the process during boot, windowless. But I was hoping that this wasnāt needed. š (And itās a bad model anyway. When the main process crashes, all windows crash with it.)
(#3neip4q) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, I noticed that too. I havenāt double-checked my code, though. Maybe it has something to do with selecting the correct URL? I mean, these feeds donāt have any # url = fields, so maybe thatās it?
(#oos3ufq) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Ah, there it is. š Never gets old. š
(#tqjqvwa) @arne@uplegger.eu ⦠I still havenāt watched that show. š¤¦
(#kf2fo5q) @prologic@twtxt.net And none of them use Yarn-style threading. I donāt think theyāre aware of us, theyāre probably using plain twtxt. Other than one hit by @threatcat@tilde.club a few days ago, Iāve seen no traffic from them. š¤
Speaking of sunsets ⦠https://movq.de/v/753ab5f9e5/sunset.jpg
(#gcaqtmq) @threatcat@tilde.club Let me guess, sl? š
(#sxlpyva) This looks like a botnet, to be honest. The IPs are all over the place. Ethopia, Brazil, Kenya, Lebanon, Netherlands, ⦠I mean, thatās the logical thing to do, isnāt it? Do your web crawling on infected PCs. Nobody will block those, because those are the same IP ranges as legitimate requests. And obviously you donāt have to pay for computing time.
⦠and they all send invalid HTTP requests, all answered with HTTP 400 ⦠How silly.
(#onzfgpa) @bender@twtxt.net Better safe than sorry, I guess. š
My goodness, a new level of stupidity.
The bots are now doing things like this:
GET http://uninformativ.de/projects/lariza/feednotify/datenstrahler/slinp/countty HTTP/1.1
http://uninformativ.de in that request, this instructs the webserver to do an HTTP proxy request. Of course, this isnāt allowed on my webserver (and shouldnāt by allowed on any normal webserver), resulting in HTTP 400. And even if it were, the target would be the exact same server, making a proxy request unnecessary.And of course, itās not just 50 hits like this or 100 or 1ā000 or 10ā000. No, itās over 150ā000 in the last 2 days. All from vastly different IP ranges of different cloud hosters.
This almost looks like a DDoS attack, but itās just completely stupid. This feels more like some idiot vibe coded a crawler.
I used Gemini (the Google AI) twice at work today, asking about Google Workspace configuration and Google Cloud CLI usage (because we use those a lot). Youād think that itād be well-suited for those topics. It answered very confidently, yet completely wrong. Just wrong. Made-up CLI arguments, whatever. It took me a while to notice, though, because itās so convincing and, well, you implicitly and subconsciously trust the results of the Google AI when asking about Google topics, donāt you?
Will it get better over time? Maybe. But what I really want is this:
I just donāt have the time or energy to constantly second-guess this stuff. Give me something reliable. Something that is designed to do the right thing, not toy around with probabilities. āAI for everythingā is just the wrong approach.
(#ulrmviq) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Well, they say you have to build up stocks, donāt they? š
The font is fiamf3 (scaled up 2x, it would be too small when printed). Itās the same one that I use in my terminal and the status bars. š
(#wswlm2q) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, it feels broken. It often needs a couple of retries and a lot of patience. Itās been like that for months. š«¤
Lol, YouTube supports increasing the playback speed, but when you want to go to 4x, they want you to pay extra:
(#5ara5ka) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thereās a couple of new users on https://tilde.club, but since this is a shared host, I doubt that they have access to their access.log files. Hence theyāll never see followers, unless we notify them out of band. š«¤
Android shopping list apps disappointed me too many times, so I went back to writing these lists by hand a while ago.
Hereās whatās more fun: Write them in Vim and then print them on the dotmatrix printer. š„³
And, because I can, I use my own font for that, i.e. ImageMagick renders an image file and then a little tool converts that to ESC/P so I can dump it to /dev/usb/lp0.
(I have so much scrap paper from mail spam lying around that I donāt feel too bad about this. All these sheets would go straight to the bin otherwise.)
(#36db6ya) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, Iām glad Iām not the only one who didnāt get this right. š You never had to configure a systemd timer? Lucky. š
(#gk5t5mq) @bender@twtxt.net No plus-aliases, just aliases. The mailserver runs on my OpenBSB box and is managed using BundleWrap (we use that at work), so to create a new alias, I push a new BundleWrap config to the server.
(#zxchmeq) @prologic@twtxt.net Glad youāre back. āļø
(#o67gqfa) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Itās possible to run the validator locally (my blog generator scripts do that):
https://validator.w3.org/nu/about.html
That way you donāt forget. š„³
(#5dyjtqa) @prologic@twtxt.net FWIW, I love the idea and I do the same with my email domains. Itās the most effective way to fight spam, IMO. š„³
(#s62fiaa) @bender@twtxt.net All good. āļø Itās just that Iāve been through several iterations of this (on other platforms), AI output back and forth, pointing out whatās wrong, but in the end people were just trolling (not saying thatās what you had in mind), because apparently thatās āfunā.
(#oa65m7q) This is formatted poorly on twtxt.net, so hereās a plain text file: https://movq.de/v/971c5a125d/wall-of-text.txt
(#f4xwmia) ⦠and now I just read @bender@twtxt.netās other post that said the Gemini text was a shortened version, so I might have criticized things that werenāt true for the full version. Okay, sorry, Iām out. (And I wonāt play that game, either. Donāt send me another AI output, possibly tweaked to address my criticism. That is besides the point and not worth my time.)
(#f4xwmia) @prologic@twtxt.net Letās go through it one by one. Hereās a wall of text that took me over 1.5 hours to write.
This section says AI should not be treated as an authority. This is actually just what I said, except the AI phrased/framed it like it was a counter-argument.
The AI also said that users must develop āAI literacyā, again phrasing/framing it like a counter-argument. Well, that is also just what I said. I said you should treat AI output like a random blog and you should verify the sources, yadda yadda. That is āAI literacyā, isnāt it?
My text went one step further, though: I said that when you take this requirement of āAI literacyā into account, you basically end up with a fancy search engine, with extra overhead that costs time. The AI missed/ignored this in its reply.
Okay, so, the AI also said that you should use AI tools just for drafting and brainstorming. Granted, a very rough draft of something will probably be doable. But then you have to diligently verify every little detail of this draft ā okay, fine, a draft is a draft, itās fine if it contains errors. The thing is, though, that you really must do this verification. And I claim that many people will not do it, because AI outputs look sooooo convincing, they donāt feel like a draft that needs editing.
Can you, as an expert, still use an AI draft as a basis/foundation? Yeah, probably. But hereās the kicker: You did not create that draft. You were not involved in the āthought processā behind it. When you, a human being, make a draft, you often think something like: āOkay, I want to draw a picture of a landscape and thereās going to be a little house, but for now, Iāll just put in a rough sketch of the house and add the details later.ā You are aware of what you left out. When the AI did the draft, you are not aware of whatās missing ā even more so when every AI output already looks like a final product. For me, personally, this makes it much harder and slower to verify such a draft, and I mentioned this in my text.
You, @prologic@twtxt.net, also mentioned this in your car tyre example.
In my text, I gave two analogies: The gym analogy and the Google Translate analogy. Your car tyre example falls in the same category, but Geminiās calculator example is different (and, again, gaslight-y, see below).
What I meant in my text: A person wants to be a programmer. To me, a programmer is a person who writes code, understands code, maintains code, writes documentation, and so on. In your example, a person who changes a car tyre would be a mechanic. Now, if you use AI to write the code and documentation for you, are you still a programmer? If you have no understanding of said code, are you a programmer? A person who does not know how to change a car tyre, is that still a mechanic?
No, youāre something else. You should not be hired as a programmer or a mechanic.
Yes, that is āskill evolutionā ā which is pretty much my point! But the AI framed it like a counter-argument. It didnāt understand my text.
(But what if thatās our future? What if all programming will look like that in some years? I claim: Itās not possible. If you donāt know how to program, then you donāt know how to read/understand code written by an AI. You are something else, but youāre not a programmer. It might be valid to be something else ā but that wasnāt my point, my point was that youāre not a bloody programmer.)
Geminiās calculator example is garbage, I think. Crunching numbers and doing mathematics (i.e., ācomplex problem-solvingā) are two different things. Just because you now have a calculator, doesnāt mean itāll free you up to do mathematical proofs or whatever.
What would have worked is this: Letās say youāre an accountant and you sum up spendings. Without a calculator, this takes a lot of time and is error prone. But when you have one, you can work faster. But once again, thereās a little gaslight-y detail: A calculator is correct. Yes, it could have ābugsā (hello Intel FDIV), but its design actually properly calculates numbers. AI, on the other hand, does not understand a thing (our current AI, that is), itās just a statistical model. So, this modified example (āaccountant with a calculatorā) would actually have to be phrased like this: Suppose thereās an accountant and you give her a magic box that spits out the correct result in, what, I donāt know, 70-90% of the time. The accountant couldnāt rely on this box now, could she? Sheād either have to double-check everything or accept possibly wrong results. And that is how I feel like when I work with AI tools.
Gemini has no idea that its calculator example doesnāt make sense. It just spits out some generic āargumentā that it picked up on some website.
The AI makes two points here. The first one, I might actually agree with (ābad bot behavior is not the fault of AI itselfā).
The second point is, once again, gaslighting, because it is phrased/framed like a counter-argument. It implies that I said something which I didnāt. Like the AI, I said that you would have to adjust the copyright law! At the same time, the AI answer didnāt even question whether itās okay to break the current law or not. It just said ālol yeah, change the lawsā. (I wonder in what way the laws would have to be changed in the AIās āopinionā, because some of these changes could kill some business opportunities ā or the laws would have to have special AI clauses that only benefit the AI techbros. But I digress, that wasnāt part of Geminiās answer.)
Except for one point, I donāt accept any of Geminiās ācriticismā. It didnāt pick up on lots of details, ignored arguments, and I can just instinctively tell that this thing does not understand anything it wrote (which is correct, itās just a statistical model).
And it framed everything like a counter-argument, while actually repeating what I said. Thatās gaslighting: When Alice says āthe sky is blueā and Bob replies with āwhy do you say the sky is purple?!ā
But it sure looks convincing, doesnāt it?
This took so much of my time. I wonāt do this again. š
(#kspztjq) @bender@twtxt.net Itās sad. Remember that Munich once ran the LiMux project. š
We could build a strong IT sector in Germany or the EU, but we just donāt want to.
(#34cy36q) @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @bender@twtxt.net Iām not very knowledgable regarding the two points you mentioned, hence I didnāt include them in my list. But, yeah, from what Iāve heard, it doesnāt look good.