(#ckxyirq) @prologic@twtxt.net Germany was listed as ā€œopposingā€ on https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ for a while, now it’s back to ā€œundecidedā€. According to netzpolitik.org, it’s still debated. Also according to that page, there could be an important vote on the EU level on October 13/14.

The green party and the (far) left are opposing this (at least in Germany). Sadly, Germany is leaning more right with every year … As for young people: The (far) left is the strongest party among young people, with the (far) right being the second strongest one. (https://www.tagesschau.de/wahl/archiv/2025-02-23-BT-DE/umfrage-alter.shtml) Is there cause for hope? I don’t know.


#ade4jxa

(#bhbo6cq) @bender@twtxt.net Yup! Fixing that now! šŸ‘Œ Also the Tags page and the size of the trags is intentional, as more posts are tagged with the same tag, those will result in larger size rendered tags in a kind of ā€œtag cloudā€ – At this this is the intention.


#zscamda

(#bhbo6cq) @bender@twtxt.net Ahh yes I see what you mean. no indicate of when the post was made right? That should be ideally displayed on the page somewhere? Would you expect it in the url as well, because not having /posts/yyyy/mm/dd/.... was actually intentional. But yeah I should figure out where to put some additional metadata on the page.


#3qeqrfq

(#ce7zzfq) @alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it Yeah I think we’re overstating the UNIX principles a bit here 🤣 I get what you’re trying to say though @zvava@twtxt.net šŸ˜… If I could go back in time and do it all over again, I would have gotten the Hash length correct and I would have used SHA-256 instead. But someone way smarter than me designed the Twt Hash spec, we adopted it and well here we are today, it worksā„¢ šŸ˜…


#fk4rnha

Please don’t hate me today; I’m a bit grumpy and have too many reasons to be upset:

  • 2 counts of pushing and trying to get the simplest things done at work (that for some reason are made more difficult than they should be)
  • This whole Chat Control bullshit
  • And some other person things going on that have been ongoing for 72 days and counting 🤬

#mjjph3a

(#rsrlmzq) And I need to make something absolutely clear as well here. Twtxt was completely and utterly dead back in {Aug 2020](https://yarn.social/about.html) when I came across the spec and its simplicity and realised the lost opportunity. Since then we’ve continued to grow a small but thriving community. The extensions we’ve built over time have stood and lasted the test of time for the past ~5 years. We need not break things too badly, because what we have today and was designed years ago actually works quite wellā„¢ (despite some flaws).


#5hm5xja

(#rsrlmzq) Put another way, what you are proposing/pushing for requires hundreds of lines of code to change across a half dozen or so clients and lots of breaking changes, not to mention unknowns.

What I want us to do is make only a few half dozen or so lines of code changes to our clients and minimize the breaking changes and unknowns.


#cdcofba

(#rsrlmzq) @zvava@twtxt.net Going to have to hard disagree here I’m sorry. a) no-one reads the raw/plain twtxt.txt files, the only time you do is to debug something, or have a stick beak at the comments which most clients will strip out and ignore and b) I’m sorry you’ve completely lost me! I’m old enough to pre-date before Linux became popular, so I’m not sure what UNIX principles you think are being broken or violated by having a Twt Subject (Subject) whose contents is a cryptographic content-addressable hash of the ā€œthingā€ā„¢ you’re replying to and forming a chain of other replies (a thread).

I’m sorry, but the simplest thing to do is to make the smallest number of changes to the Spec as possible and all agree on a ā€œMagic Dateā€ for which our clients use the modified function(s).


#nkf2q7a

(#rsrlmzq) @bender@twtxt.net Well honestly, this is just it. My strong position on this is quite simple:

Do the simplest thing that could work.

It’s one of the age old UNIX philosphies.

Therefore, the simplest thingā„¢ to do here is to just increase the hash length, mark a magicā„¢ date/time as @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org has indicated and call it a day. We’ll then be fine for a few hundred years, at which point there’ll be no-one left alive to give a shitā„¢ anyway 🤣


#34bhnca

Oh man, if the EU actually rolled out this horribd idea called ChatControl that actually threatens the security and privacy of secure e2e encrypted messaging like Signalā„¢, fuck me, I’m out šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø I’ll just rage quit the IT industry and become a luddite. I’m out.


#ckxyirq

I just created a zs blogging template which I’m going to use for https://prologic.blog and I might starting writing long-form again soonā„¢ šŸ”œ So far the ā€œbloggingā€ template/engine (if you weill) is quite simple. It comprises essentially of an index.md a prehook and a few utilities:

$ git ls-files
.gitignore
.zs/config.yml
.zs/editthispage
.zs/include
.zs/layout.html
.zs/list
.zs/months
.zs/now
.zs/onthispage
.zs/posthook
.zs/postsbymonth
.zs/prehook
.zs/scripts
.zs/styles
.zs/tagcloud
.zs/taglist
.zs/years
archives/.empty
assets/css/site.css
assets/js/main.js
index.md
posts/hello-zs-blog.md
posts/on-tagging.md
posts/second-post.md
tags/.empty

#o2lsjcq

(#vdkllnq) Example:

Alice starts thread #42:

2025-09-25T12:00:00Z (tno:42) Launching storage design review.

Bob replies:

2025-09-25T12:05:00Z (tno:42) (ofeed:https://alice.example/twtxt.txt
) I think compaction stalls under load.

Carol replies to Bob:

2025-09-25T12:08:00Z (tno:42) (ofeed:https://alice.example/twtxt.txt
) Token bucket sounds good.

#d5ltala

TNO Threading (draft):
Each origin feed numbers new threads (tno:N). Replies carry both (tno:N) and (ofeed:<origin-url>). Thread identity = (ofeed, tno).

  • Roots: (tno:N) (implicit ofeed=self).
  • Replies: (tno:N) (ofeed:<url>).
  • Clients: increment tno locally for new threads, copy tags on reply.
  • Subjects optional, not required.

…


#vdkllnq

(#3h7w7ca) I would personally rather see something like this:

2025-09-25T22:41:19+10:00	Hello World
2025-09-25T22:41:19+10:00	(#kexv5vq https://example.com/twtxt.html#:~:text=2025-09-25T22:41:19%2B10:00) Hey!

Preserving both content-based addressing as well as location-based addressing and text fragment linking.


#7fsi7yq

(#3h7w7ca) I was trying to say (badly):

That’s kind of my position on this. If we are going to make significant changes in the threading model, let’s keep content based addressing, but also improve the user experience. Answering your question, yes I think we can do some combination of both.


#6rwb3za